Welcome back to the home of the oxymoron. Evil genius. He asked the newspaper to print his obituary early so he'd enjoy it. That's like hiding at your own funeral. Yeah, a big, great gig. I'm Russell Kane. Join me to weigh in on whether the biggest players in history are more evil or genius. Becoming that rich, I'd say that is some level of genius. It also helps that it's a long time ago, right?

It's like the podcast version of telling your kids the ice cream van plays music when it's out of ice cream.

Listen to Evil Genius on BBC Sounds.

Welcome to the arts and ideas download from the free thinking team at the BBC.

And tonight we're thinking inside the box,

our glass box situated right here on the South Bank in London. It's part of Sound Frontiers,

a celebration of 70 years since Director-General Sir William Haley cranked up the cultural behemoth

that became the third programme. And tonight on the third, we'll be looking into the third, the Third Reich.

We'll peer inside Hitler's bunker and find out what those dubious-looking pills were that he kept

stash next to the brown shirts and the pistol. Norman Ola will tell us how drugs-fueled Hitler's

rise and then sent him on the ultimate downer. In the aftermath of Brexit and the

Hungarian vote on migrants, we'll talk to Nikashukla, who's edited an essay collection called

The Good Immigrant. He'll be joined by novelist Kamala Shamsi, who's been communing with her

inner chaucer, as she helps rethink the Canterbury Tales by talking to refugees. Plus, from

tabletops to laptops, Catherine Howell, curator of toys and games at the VNA Museum of Childhood, and Marie Fulston, curator of video games, also at the VNA, remind us of the life and times of the board game. And actually, Catherine, you're here now, I think, with some evidence in front of you, including I see a dice here, which may help start off a bit of ludo. Do you want to see if our luck's in tonight? Just give us a rattle. Two, three, and what's the other one there? Five. Five. You see, just outside when we were rehearsing, I managed listeners to throw three threes, and I think that that is a very good sign indeed. what I'm not entirely sure. I also see we've got a bag of scrabble tiles here, which is good, but I'm a bit worried that Catherine may start making some improper words or something. Is that what's going on there? No, I've got a blank, so anything could happen. Absolutely. We've got an O and a blank. Well, no doubt we'll have more chance.

If you keep moving away with those tiles during the course of the program, Catherine,

when we come back, we expect to see a lexical mountain emerging on that board game there.

I have to say, what with the subject of Hitler and the subject of board gains,

tonight we're going to be going from Nazi to Nazi, I suppose, on the course of tonight's show.

But first, you might know the British Asian actor Riz Ahmed from his roles in the film Night Crawler,

the TV series The Night of, and the new blockbuster Jason Bourne.

A few years back, Riz Ahmed was being questioned at Heathrow

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