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Free Thinking - Post Referendum reflections and New Generation Thinker Chris Kissane on citizenship.

Arts & Ideas

BBC

Society & Culture

4.2598 Ratings

🗓️ 29 June 2016

⏱️ 45 minutes

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Summary

Post referendum, Anne McElvoy is joined by Kwasi Kwarteng MP for Spelthorne who made the case for Brexit; Dr Uta Staiger, Deputy Director of the European Institute at University College London; Sunder Katwala, the Director of the Think Tank, Britain Thinks; and, Abigail Green, Professor of European History at the University of Oxford discuss the competing histories behind Britain's decision to leave the European Union.

And we're joined by one of our 2016 New Generation Thinkers, Chris Kissane, who discusses our ideas of citizenship. Plus Dr Matthew Wall from Swansea University shares his research into betting patterns and what they tell us about the referendum.

Chris Kissane researches early modern history, food and history, economic and social history at the London School of Economics.

The New Generation Thinkers prize is an initiative launched by BBC Radio 3 and the Arts and Humanities Research Council (AHRC) to find the brightest minds from across the UK who have the potential to transform their research into engaging broadcast programmes. You can hear more about the research topics of all 10 2016 New Generation Thinkers on our website on a programme broadcast on May 31st and available as an arts and ideas podcast and find clips where you can hear their newly commissioned written pieces on a range of subjects.

Transcript

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0:00.0

Welcome back to the home of the oxymoron. Evil genius. He asked the newspaper to print his obituary early so he'd enjoy it. That's like hiding at your own funeral. Yeah, a big, great gig. I'm Russell Kane. Join me to weigh in on whether the biggest players in history are more evil or genius. Becoming that rich, I'd say that is some level of genius. It also helps that it's a long time ago, right?

0:23.3

It's like the podcast version of telling your kids the ice cream van plays music when it's out of ice cream.

0:28.8

Listen to Evil Genius on BBC Sounds.

0:32.1

Hello, and tonight we'll be taking the long view on last Thursday's referendum

0:36.3

when the United Kingdom voted to leave the European Union.

0:40.7

Amidst the passion and the protests,

0:42.8

those who feel that they've got their country back

0:45.0

and those who feel that they're losing it

0:47.0

will be sifting through the competing narratives

0:49.5

and the historical threads

0:51.0

that might explain what happened and what it may mean in the future.

0:55.4

We'll be exploring why so many failed to predict the outcome of the referendum

0:59.5

and hearing from one academic about why political gamblers may be more reliable than the polling industry.

1:07.1

We'll also hear from Radio 3 and AHRC New Generation Thinker, Christopher Kisain, who will be offering us his reflections on the failures and possibilities of European citizenship.

1:20.2

And with me throughout the programme are Quasi Quarteng, MP for Spellthorn, who argued the case for Brexit.

1:27.3

Dr. Uta Steyger, Executive Director of the European Institute at University College London.

1:33.4

Sanda Kutwaler, the director of the think tank, British Future,

1:37.1

and Abigail Green, Professor of European History at Oxford University.

1:42.0

Abigail is joining us on the line from New York.

1:45.0

So not the result, many had expected on either side of the argument,

1:50.0

but there is a long history of missing the story or disconnecting with the public.

1:56.0

So how do we understand what happened this time

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