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Free Thinking - Hay Festival: David Brooks, Azar Nafisi and Tom Holland

Arts & Ideas

BBC

Society & Culture

4.2599 Ratings

🗓️ 27 May 2015

⏱️ 45 minutes

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Summary

Rana Mitter and guests New York Times journalist David Brooks, the Iranian novelist Azar Nafisi and historian Tom Holland discuss the concept of humility. Vice or virtue? (Recorded earlier this week at the Hay Festival 2015)

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0:00.0

Welcome back to the home of the oxymoron. Evil genius. He asked the newspaper to print his obituary early so he'd enjoy it. That's like hiding at your own funeral. Yeah, it's a big, great gig. I'm Russell Kane. Join me to weigh in on whether the biggest players in history are more evil or genius. Becoming that rich, I'd say that at some level of genius. It also helps that it's a long time ago, right?

0:23.4

It's like the podcast version of telling your kids the ice cream van plays music

0:27.0

when it's out of ice cream.

0:28.9

Listen to evil genius on BBC Sounds. Hello and welcome to free thinking

0:44.7

coming from the BBC tent at the Hay Festival.

0:47.9

It was Uriah Heep in David Copperfield,

0:50.4

who first declared himself to be very humble, sir,

0:53.6

and got roundly mocked for doing so.

0:55.8

But in a century or more since Dickens was writing, could we do with a bit more attention

0:59.8

to humility? Perhaps in an era when we're all told that we're all special and all unique,

1:06.4

we could do with thinking that maybe we're not so wonderful after all. With me today to discuss humility,

1:12.2

I have three writers who have no reason at all to hide their lights under bushels. David Brooks

1:17.5

is one of the New York Times' best-known columnists, and his book, The Social Animal, was said

1:22.3

to be required reading for David Cameron's first cabinet. His new book is titled The Road to Character

1:27.6

and it's an elegy for the loss of traditional values.

1:31.0

Azanafisi sold over a million copies of her memoir

1:33.6

Reading Lolita in Tehran

1:35.3

and her new book, The Republic of the Imagination,

1:38.4

makes the case for more fiction in our lives.

1:41.0

And Tom Holland is one of our best-known historians

1:43.1

whose expertise spans ancient Rome

1:45.5

to the Islamic Middle East. Please welcome them all.

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