Free Thinking - Barbara Kruger & Laurie Penny
Arts & Ideas
BBC
4.2 • 599 Ratings
🗓️ 25 June 2014
⏱️ 45 minutes
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Samira Ahmed discusses feminism with American artist Barbara Kruger and journalist Laurie Penny;and cartoonist Posy Simmonds talks about the role of cartoonists responding to politics and international affairs
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome back to the home of the oxymoron. Evil genius. He asked the newspaper to print his obituary early so he'd enjoy it. That's like hiding at your own funeral. Yeah, it's a big, great gig. I'm Russell Kane. Join me to weigh in on whether the biggest players in history are more evil or genius. Becoming that rich, I'd say that at some level of genius. It also helps that it's a long time ago, right? |
| 0:23.4 | It's like the podcast version of telling your kids the ice cream van plays music when it's out of ice cream. |
| 0:28.9 | Listen to evil genius on BBC Sounds. |
| 0:32.0 | On tonight's program, the trademarked slogans of love and commerce. |
| 0:36.7 | Barbara Kruger and journalist and campaigner Laurie Penny |
| 0:39.5 | are in conversation to discuss how they use words and art |
| 0:43.7 | to highlight particular issues. |
| 0:45.9 | Pleasure, pain, equality, capitalism and feminism. |
| 0:50.4 | We catch up with Professor Conagherty |
| 0:52.4 | as the Constitution UK project comes to a head with a carnival tomorrow. |
| 0:57.5 | Will Abbey, one of Radio 3's New Generation thinkers, gives us his take on the minds of molecules. |
| 1:04.4 | And cartoonist Posey Simmons offers her trademark thoughtful response to commemorations of World War I. |
| 1:11.4 | I think it's very important now to realize how much diplomatic failures contribute, |
| 1:17.9 | and diplomatic failures are certainly going to continue. |
| 1:21.5 | We've only got to look at things happening in Ukraine |
| 1:25.3 | and to realize that power blocks are still grating against each other |
| 1:29.9 | in the same way that Austria-Hungary and France and Britain did in the beginning of the last century. |
| 1:38.5 | So I just think if it sheds light on all that sort of thing, it would be a very good thing. |
| 1:43.1 | But first, intellectuals, big shots, poses, thinkers, feelers, |
| 1:48.8 | they have all encouraged us to question the influence of consumer culture |
| 1:52.4 | and especially the way women are represented in it and defined by it. |
| 1:57.1 | That list I just read of large lettered nouns is also typical of the kind of slogan used by the American conceptual artist Barbara Kruger. |
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