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Free Thinking 2012 - Colm Tóibín

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Society & Culture

4.2598 Ratings

🗓️ 6 December 2012

⏱️ 44 minutes

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Summary

Colm Toibin is one of Ireland's finest writers, whose books explore issues such as Catholicism, immigration and homosexuality. His 2009 novel Brooklyn won the Costa novel of the Year, and his latest The Testament of Mary is a controversial re-imagining of the life of the Virgin Mary. In an extended interview recorded at the Radio 3 Free Thinking Festival at The Sage Gateshead on Saturday 3 November, Philip Dodd talks to Colm Toibin about his own life, his ideas, and thoughts on literature.

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0:00.0

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0:23.4

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0:28.9

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0:32.1

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0:34.0

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0:45.9

His new novel wraps itself around Mary, the mother of Jesus, in the time after the crucifixion, her emotions muffled by what she's lived

0:57.7

through. An earlier fiction, the master, imagines the great American novelist Henry James,

1:05.0

anguished by love and his inability to show it. But combed to being, guest in extended conversation here at the Sage Gateshead, in association

1:15.4

with writing North, is just as much at ease with more contemporary figures, with Alish Lacey,

1:22.4

a young Irish woman in the 50s in his award-winning novel Brooklyn, who never dreamed of leaving Ireland,

1:29.6

but does so only to be pulled back home. Or the many characters often love lawn deliberately

1:36.7

so in his short stories, one volume of which is called the empty family, another mothers and sons.

1:45.7

Comteabine was born in 1955 in Ireland, into a family, some of whose members were involved

1:51.3

in the Easter Rising of 1916, and he lost his own father when he was 12.

1:57.7

A child who loses a parent never recovers, he has said.

2:02.4

He's the author of six novels, has published essays, one volume of which is acerbically called

2:07.6

New Ways to Kill Your Mother, taught creative writing and lives in the US, Barcelona, as well as Ireland.

2:16.4

There seems to be an imprinprincipled restlessness about him,

2:21.2

like one of his heroes, Henry James. But there seems to me, Combe, to be one thread that

2:28.3

weaves its way through. And it's here in this new novel, in the Testament of Mary, you love endings rather than beginnings.

2:36.1

After all, this is a book that, as it were, begins after the end, after the crucifixion.

2:42.1

The beginning of the master begins by the character talking of death. What is it that draws you

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