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Free Thinking 2012 - Amos Oz

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4.2599 Ratings

🗓️ 12 November 2012

⏱️ 44 minutes

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Summary

Amos Oz, one of Israel's most influential thinkers, gives a talk on the Middle East and the prospect of future co-existence between Israel and Palestine. The event is chaired by Night Waves presenter Philip Dodd and recorded as part of Radio 3's Free Thinking Festival 2012 on Saturday 3 November 2012 at The Sage Gateshead.

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0:28.9

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0:33.6

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0:41.1

Welcome to free thinking. Radio Three's Festival of Ideas here at the Sage Gateshead.

0:47.7

My guest today, Amos Oz, was born in Jerusalem in 1939, and has lived not only through the founding of Israel,

0:57.6

but through the almost terminally intractable and often unforgiving dispute between the

1:04.3

Palestinians and the state of Israel. He's been called the national conscience of Israel, perhaps sometimes a controversial conscience.

1:14.6

As long ago as 1967, he called for a two-state solution to the conflict and was a founder of peace now.

1:24.3

But he's also author of over 30 novels, many essays, as well as one of the great

1:30.2

post-world memoirs, a tale of love and darkness about childhood, the birth of Israel, and the

1:38.3

suicide of his mother. His family was Zionist immigrants into Jerusalem, and Amosos went on to live in a kubbutz fight in two wars.

1:48.6

He was in a tank unit during the 1967, six days war, and he's marinated himself in the life of his country.

1:57.8

Even his novels show that loyalty.

2:04.0

He once said that a translation of Sherwood Anderson's Winesburg, Ohio, helped me to write about what was around me. He just published a brace of essays,

2:13.3

one entitled Between Right and Right, a reference to both Israel and the Palestinians, and another

2:21.0

called How to Cure a Fanatic. Both were originally lectures and were given in Germany in 2002

2:28.7

and are now published in English. They go deep into the womb that is the Palestine in Israel conflict, as unafraid to mock

2:39.0

the sentimentalities of the European left, as opposed the fanatic gene in all of us.

2:45.8

That's his phrase.

2:47.7

It's not surprising that Amos is often cited as one of the most important public intellectuals in the world.

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