Free Talk Live.

It's Free Talk Live. We're at Freedom Fest 2019 into now a second day of bonus interviews because that's just how it is here.

We're loaded up with people who've got things that are interesting to talk about, very interesting personalities here at this event. FreedomFest.com is where you can go to learn more. It's Ian here. And Mark. And Robin Corner. Did I get that right? Kerner. Kerner. Robin Kerner. Yeah. Normally I ask beforehand.

Robin Kerner is with us from Robin Kerner.com.

I'm going to spell that.

R-O-B-I-N-E-R-N-E-R dot com.

You are, did you say political psychologist?

Political psychology, that's what I do.

What is that? What does that mean?

What does that mean?

Well, that course wasn't offered in college.

Yeah, although it is now offered online at Weapons of Mass Persuasion.com.

That's a cool URL.

Online program, right?

That's a much easier URL to say than Robin Kerner.

Maybe easier to spell, yeah. Weapons of mass persuasion.com. Yeah, yeah. Which is a program for libertarians who want to get good at persuading non-libertarians that they need to become libertarians, basically, to put it in a nutshell. So you're an actual libertarian here at this conference. That's good. You know, having said that, I'm iffy about the labels. You know, Kiergaard said, you label me, you negate me, and I kind of believe with that. And also, I've got the schick about how libertarianism in the U.S. right now, for many, has become a kind of neo-religious orthodoxy.

Oh, yeah, me too.

Yeah.

I'm exactly that.

I am neo-religious Orthodox libertarian.

I'll accept it as a religious title because I think that it is closer to that than anything else.

Okay. Okay.

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