Free Speech or Terrorist Threat: Should Palestinian student Mahmoud Khalil be deported?

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Dr. Phil McGraw

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🗓️ 8 April 2025

⏱️ 45 minutes

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Summary

From the charged atmosphere of Columbia University protests, where allegations of Hamas ties swirled around Mahmoud Khalil, to the fiery activism of Nerdeen Kiswani, Dr. Phil dives headfirst into the heart of a national controversy. Was Mahmoud's presence at those protests a sign of radicalization, or a misinterpretation of his beliefs? And prepare for a confrontation unlike any other with pro-Palestine activist Nerdeen. Dr. Phil challenges her to defend her controversial stances. This is a high-stakes debate where Dr. Phil navigates this minefield of conflicting ideologies. This is a Dr. Phil you cannot afford to miss.
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0:00.0	The controversial and explosive case of Mahmoud Khalil.
0:04.0	He's the one making sure that protesters get away with their violence.
0:07.0	They're fighting for the eradication of Western civilization.
0:09.0	You've used your platform to spread debunked claims,
0:12.0	like beheaded Israeli babies, even after being disproved.
0:15.0	It hasn't been disproved. I have seen the footage myself.
0:18.0	I have been there and talked to the people.
0:27.1	You seriously bring that up when Hamas is holding hostages right now as we speak?
0:42.3	Tonight, we're diving into the controversial and explosive case of Mahmoud Khalil, a Palestinian student and activist at Columbia University whose fiery protest have sparked a national debate with deeply divided opinions.
0:52.3	He has been detained by U.S. immigration and custom enforcement, ICE,
0:59.0	and has a team of lawyers.
1:02.0	There are ongoing legal battles regarding the jurisdiction of his case,
1:06.0	with a federal judge ruling that parts of the case should be heard in New Jersey. While some say he is a
1:13.5	dangerous radical who needs to be deported, others call him a voice for the
1:19.5	oppressed, fighting for justice. Is he a threat to national security or is this a
1:26.3	gross violation of his First Amendment rights?
1:29.3	Tonight we'll hear from both sides. First, Ileana, a Jewish student leader at Columbia who says she witnessed Khalil at protests.
1:40.3	I'llliana, thank you for joining us tonight. I appreciate you being here. I know this is a
1:45.8	very sensitive topic. How long have you been a student at Columbia? This is my fourth and final year here.
1:52.8	Well, I appreciate you coming on and talking about this. So you have witnessed Mahmood Khalil at
1:58.1	these protests. What do you see him doing? What's his role?
2:03.4	Well, interestingly enough, he's kind of positioned himself in a way that he's spokesperson of
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