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It's a joy to be here with you today, a little bit earlier than normal when we're recording this.

I have got with me most year with Andy Heaton and Dan Austin. And when I thought thought this show through I thought we were going to talk

about the FA Cup game against Devon and the FA Cup in general I thought to myself we were going to talk

about Philip Catineo but we would start with Burnley, however the intensity of the

Catino chat as made clear by Melissa Reddy and Miguel Delaney across the course

of these last couple of days. It means that we're going to start off talking

about Philip Catino and Andy, Andy, for me what changes between

August and now and what changes when I try to sort of have some empathy and imagine being

different people in the situation. The first thing I think is there'll be a lot of talk

of what professional footballers do or don't do and what they do or don't understand.

But I think if I'm a teammate of Kucino, I feel a bit differently about what's going on now in January when we're slap-banging in the middle of this campaign

to how I would feel about it in August when you can

understand the very very start and that might be wrong it might be false but that

be my impression of it. You know what I don't need I don't see you have a

problem with the player whether whether the injury let's give the benefit of the doubt and say there is a little

niggle there and he's not fit enough I mean the manager spoke today about him being fit for city

we'll see but even the other side of it let's just presume that you know he's swinging the

lead a little bit maybe that I get a sense that there's a lot more there's a

lot more knowledge of the situation within the camper and

within the team mates and the squads.

I mean you've only got to look at this moment

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