Ladies and gentlemen,

Can I please have your attention?

Can you digger?

Greetings, their listeners.

This is Jonah Goldberg, host of the Remnant podcast, brought to you by the Dispatch and Dispatch Media.

We have a Remnant fan favorite on today. We have, you know, our anglophilic audience is constantly

demanding more Brits and, and particularly Matt Ridley, who's among the best of them. Matt,

Matt's books have sold nearly two million copies. They've been translated into

31 languages, and they've won a whole bunch of awards. We're not going to get into all that.

And he's got a new book out on a topic that literally I can't go a day without people demanding

we talk more about, which is birds, sex, and beauty, the extraordinary implications of Charles Darwin's strangest idea.

Matt Ripley, welcome back to the remnant.

Thank you, Jonah.

A remnant reentrant, I guess.

Thank you so much.

It's lovely to be able to talk on what is a cold, dark evening in the UK about the beauty

of birds in the springtime.

I forgot you're in the UK, so...

But then again, basically it's a cold, dark evening in the UK from late November until late

February, so that's not remarkable. But anyway, true.

What do we start from the top? What's your book about? My book is about birds. It's also about

a particular theory of evolution. And for me, it's a new writing venture because I've always loved nature writing

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