What does it take to transform a company's mission into a movement?

I say it comes down to two things, math and magic.

I'm Bob Pittman, Chairman and CEO of I Heart Media.

On my podcast, Math and Magic, I sit down with the

visionaries on the frontiers of marketing to hear how they

views data and creativity to bring big ideas to life.

We'll hear from business leaders like Tony Coles,

President of Black Information Network.

We're sourcing stories that mainstream newsrooms would

never tell only because they lack the diversity to bring some

of these stories to light.

Listen to Math and Magic on our very own free I Heart

Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast.

I'm Curtis Fittis in Jackson.

And I'm Charlie Webster.

Listen to the podcasts surviving El Chapo, the incredible

true story of the identical twins from Chicago,

who built America's biggest drug trafficking empire.

The only reason El Chapo is now in prison and they've never

spoken publicly until now.

My brother had the only legal recording of Chapo's math.

Listen to surviving El Chapo, the twins who brought down

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