Welcome back to the Libertarian podcast from the Hoover Institution.

I'm your host, Tom Church.

I'm joined as always by the Libertarian Professor Richard Epstein.

Richard is the Peter and Kirsten Bedford Senior Fellow here at the Hoover Institution.

He's the Lawrence A. Tish Professor of Law at NYU, and he's a senior lecturer at the Hoover Institution. He's the Lawrence A. Tisch Professor of Law at NYU,

and he's a senior lecturer at the University of Chicago. Now, Richard, it's been just over a month

since the 2024 presidential election and President-elect Trump's cabinet is coming into more

focus, as is the foreign policy situation in the Middle East that his new administration is going to be

dealing with. So I'd like to talk about those two issues. Since the last time we spoke,

we went over the good, the bad, and the ugly of nominations. I'll note in that time,

Matt Gates at AG stepped down to be replaced by Pam Bondi, but we have a few new names

to talk through. And I think

we'll skip over some of the maybe less controversial ones, Scott Besant at Treasury, Ross Vaught

at LMB, our friend Jay Batachari at NIH. I think you're pretty happy about that one.

Therrills. Yeah. But there are four I'd like to think through the implications of with you,

four more controversial ones.

Let me list them really quickly for you.

So at HHS, we've got RFK Jr.

At Labor Secretary, we have Lori Chavez-Dremmer, and I bring that one up because it doesn't

look like a typical Republican pick.

And yesterday, Trump came out against automation of the ports and in favor of the

Longshoreman Union,

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