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The Ben Ferguson Podcast

Fraud Tourism Is Real and Minnesota Is the Hot Destination

The Ben Ferguson Podcast

iHeartPodcasts

News, Politics, News Commentary

4.94.7K Ratings

🗓️ 29 December 2025

⏱️ 27 minutes

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Summary

  • The Scandal

    • Fraud schemes allegedly involve billions of dollars across multiple programs: childcare assistance, autism centers, and home healthcare.
    • Daycare centers licensed for dozens of children reportedly received $1–$3 million annually, yet appeared empty or inactive during visits.
    • Some facilities had blocked windows, locked doors, and no visible signs of operation.
  • Nick Shirley’s Investigation

    • Shirley created a 42-minute viral video by visiting addresses listed on Minnesota’s official government site for childcare funding.
    • He documented $110 million in questionable payments in one day of investigation.
    • His approach was simple: knock on doors, ask questions, and record the lack of activity.
  • Examples of Fraudulent Activity

    • Quality Learning Center misspelled its sign as “Quality Leering Center” yet received $1.9 million in 2025.
    • Super Kids Daycare Center reopened under a new name after being shut down for violations, continuing to receive millions.
    • A single building housed 14 home healthcare companies, allegedly funneling $15–$16 million annually.
  • FBI and Legal Action

    • FBI Director Cash Patel confirmed the fraud investigation is a top priority, calling it “the tip of a very large iceberg.”
    • Previous cases tied to the Feeding Our Future network led to $250 million in fraud uncovered, 78 indictments, and 57 convictions.
    • Some defendants attempted to bribe a juror with $120,000 cash; sentences included 10 years in prison and $48 million restitution.
    • Possible denaturalization and deportation proceedings for those involved.
  • Political and Social Commentary

    • Criticism of Minnesota’s leadership, particularly Governor Tim Walz, for alleged mismanagement and enabling fraud.
    • Media accused of ignoring the story, leaving a YouTuber to expose what major outlets failed to investigate.
    • Mentions of racial tension during confrontations, with accusations of racism and hostility toward Mr. Shirley

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Transcript

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0:00.0

This is an I-Heart podcast.

0:02.5

Guaranteed Human.

0:05.4

Minnesota's Somali fraud scandal has exploded over the weekend, all because of a very brave

0:11.3

YouTuber in his early 20s that decided to do the job that the entire media apparatus

0:17.8

chose not to do.

0:20.3

Now, did he do some unbelievable amount of undercover journalism

0:24.2

to get this story? No. He just went and asked basic questions and knocked on doors. And what he

0:31.4

found was billions of dollars in fraud. We also now know that the FBI director, Cash Patel, has said the Minnesota fraud scheme

0:41.0

is a now, quote, top FBI priority and is calling it the tip of a very large iceberg.

0:49.5

He also made it clear that the FBI is not only aware of the videos that have gone viral over the weekend,

0:55.8

but is going to do everything to bring those who have been committing this fraud to justice,

1:02.1

including denaturalization. Now, let's get to the core of what exploded over the weekend.

1:08.7

And the biggest part of the story is simply asking questions by a very brave young man.

1:15.6

He put up his video on social media.

1:18.6

It is one that has obviously gone viral.

1:21.6

And it's an important story about an individual using the power of a cell phone to then turn it into a 42-minute

1:31.7

investigative video. Nick Shirley went out to the addresses that were listed on the government's

1:38.9

website in Minnesota, where the money had been going by the millions of dollars to see what he could find.

1:46.9

And what he found was incredibly shocking, massive fraud, and no kids playing at any of the

1:54.0

learning centers. Time after time. Guess what happened? He didn't see anybody actually doing anything with kids.

2:03.9

Now, the government surely knew this, but they didn't care because they're on a scheme as well.

2:10.2

Which brings me to playing part of the videos for you.

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