Fraud prevention & AML compliance, with Nauman Abuzar (SEON)
How to Lend Money to Strangers
Brendan le Grange
4.9 • 43 Ratings
🗓️ 23 June 2026
⏱️ 28 minutes
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Summary
From fake accounts to payment fraud, SEON’s AI platform connects 900+ first-party data signals to enrich data and provide context for action-taking, all in one place. You can read more about how they do that on their homepage: https://seon.io/
They're also on LinkedIn, of course, at https://www.linkedin.com/company/seon-tech/
As is this show (https://www.linkedin.com/company/how-to-lend-money-to-strangers/) and I (https://www.linkedin.com/in/brendanlegrange/)
Or reach out directly to Nauman at https://www.linkedin.com/in/naumanabuzar/ and tell him you heard this interview here
You can connect with me on LinkedIn, too, at https://www.linkedin.com/in/brendanlegrange/
Other friends of the show include:
https://www.ogmara.com/ (customised risk management and analytic consulting)
https://www.ontap.co.za/pages/hoedspruit-store-details (for all your Hoedspruit-based bathroom needs)
https://flatwhiteorfoff.com/ (ask for anything other than a flat white, the answer is in the name)
https://www.joinhumoni.com/ (helping international students find accommodation, work, and financial services on day one)
https://www.haboomoney.com/ (making collections personalised, flexible and intelligent)
https://beetlesense.ai (AI-powered day one pest detection for forestry)
And since you like podcasts, I also co-create HAIghtened Senses with Christo van Zyl, which looks at the intersection between human senses and technology (and this week, flying cars)
Keep well, Brendan
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| 0:00.0 | We had seen on, like, using 9,000 plus signals to make sure, like, we can detect fraud as early as possible. |
| 0:06.3 | That's the goal for everyone. |
| 0:07.6 | I think setting a right budget around, like, within the AI and machine learning is something we are seeing, |
| 0:13.7 | how industries are spending their budgets around, like compliance, AI, and fighting fraud. |
| 0:28.7 | I'm always happy when I get to talk about fraud defenses. |
| 0:33.3 | It's the niche I started my career in, but so much has changed since then. |
| 0:37.8 | Lenders and fraudsters are in a never-ending technological arms race. |
| 0:40.3 | And while that can be exhausting and stressful, |
| 0:45.0 | it does ensure that there's always something new for people like me to talk about. |
| 0:48.3 | And in this case, I'm talking to Nauman Abuza, |
| 1:02.3 | vice president of risk and compliance at Cion. Welcome to the show. |
| 1:08.4 | Thank you. |
| 1:09.4 | We've got a lot of topical stuff to cover today. |
| 1:14.0 | I think everybody who's working in the space is aware that the challenges that fraud and |
| 1:19.9 | compliance risks present just grow bigger and bigger as technology enables bad actors or even |
| 1:26.2 | sometimes just mistakes to have bigger and more global |
| 1:29.1 | impact. So I don't want to take too much time away from that. But looking at your track record |
| 1:34.8 | and your background, I saw so many interesting projects that I didn't want to skip entirely over |
| 1:40.4 | the earlier part of your career. So a couple of things I saw there that I want to draw up, |
| 1:45.4 | but maybe I'll let you start first by just walking us briefly through where you came into |
| 1:50.7 | this industry. Some of the highlights along the way, maybe some of the things that you've learned |
| 1:55.1 | that you still carry with you today. And then if we don't naturally cover that, I've got one or two |
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