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Hello, this is Frank Skinner's poetry podcast.

There is a Scottish poet called Kathleen Jamie, who's quite a high-achieving poet.

And I would like to read a poem of us called The Treehouse from the collection of the same name,

which was published in 2004, won the Forward Prize, won the Scottish Book of the Year.

Kathleen Jamie is a former Maca.

I hope I've got that word right.

I don't mean that she played bass in the bootleg Beatles.

A Macca is a sort of Scots poet laureate, really. It's an old term for significant Scottish

poets or bards, I suppose you might call them. And it literally means maker, which is a very good

term for a poet, because whether we like it or not,

a poem is a contrivance.

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