I've already been in 30 states. I got another three or four more to go before we reach New Year's.

And I do know how mad we are. I do know how this ugliness, this damn desire to be heard, not to listen, not to learn, but to be heard.

How it's undermining so many things, and it doesn't have to be this way.

Hey, hey, and welcome. This is the Ben Shapiro Show Sunday special. Today, we are joined by Dr. Frank Lunt. Frank is the pioneer of the Instant Response Focus Group Technique and the New York Times best-selling author of Words That Work, he's best known for his political commentary with more media outlets, turning to him to understand American voters than any other political pollster. Frank, thanks so much for taking the time to stop by. I really appreciate it. It's only, what, 15 minutes from the House, so it's actually pretty close. You're a convenient guess, and it made perfect sense. So why don't we start with what's on everybody's mind?

How do you assess President Trump's standing leading up to the 2020 election?

Does he still have control of the IRS?

Can I still be audited?

On an accomplishment level, what he's actually done is incredibly impressive.

The unemployment rate at a 50-year low, black unemployment at an all-time low,

Latino unemployment at an all-time low, wages going up, the economy's strong,

even with all the yelling over China.

Economically, it's been pretty incredible. Tax policy, people get to keep up. is going up, the economy is strong, even with all the yelling over China.

Economically, it's been pretty incredible. Tax policy, people get to keep more of their hardened income. In foreign policy, we're not in the middle of a war. On what he's done,

it's pretty impressive on how he says it, how he communicates. I'm not sure how much of it I like. He and I have

talked infrequently, but enough. And I've expressed some concern. I don't give you an example.

He likes to talk about building the wall, which I'm sure that most of your

viewers appreciate. The problem is when you talk about building a wall, you've got 40% support,

60% opposition. If you talk about building a barrier, it goes up to 60%. If you talk about using

human intelligence, technology, a physical barrier where it's necessary. If you're precise about it,

it goes up to 79% support. Trump's idea of instilling border security, it's a winner. The public

supports, the Democrats support it. But when you just talk about a wall, it's a great applause line for his

supporters, but it doesn't get you where you need to go. And on issues like this, sometimes what

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