The worst part about radio and podcasts is no one can tell how beautiful I look right now.

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What's up, everyone? This is Anthony Pompliano. Most of you know me as Pomp. You're listening

Off the Chain, simply the best podcast in crypto. Let's kick this thing off.

Frank Shapiro is a crypto journalist currently at the block, a global community for

crypto enthusiast. He previously covered the intersection of crypto and Wall Street at Business

Insider. In this conversation, we cover the current state of crypto media, what it takes to develop

sources, how you deal with sources who lie to you, what happened when the CFO of Goldman

Sacks called Frank's article fake news, and who the most important people and companies

in crypto are.

I hope you enjoy this episode.

Frankie Scoops is one of my favorites to interact with on Twitter, and this episode didn't

disappoint. Anthony Pompliano is a partner at Morgan Creek Digital.

All opinions expressed by Pomp or his guests on this podcast are solely their opinions

and do not reflect the opinions of Morgan Creek Digital or Morgan Creek Capital Management.

You should not treat any opinion expressed by Pomp as a specific inducement to make a

particular investment or make a particular investment

or follow a particular strategy, but only as an expression of his opinion. This podcast is for

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