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Sticky Notes: The Classical Music Podcast

Franck Symphony in D Minor

Sticky Notes: The Classical Music Podcast

Joshua Weilerstein

Arts, Performing Arts, Music

4.92.5K Ratings

🗓️ 20 November 2025

⏱️ 60 minutes

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Summary

In the 1960s, Leonard Bernstein famously helped to popularize the music of a then relatively obscure composer, Gustav Mahler. His work, as well as the work of other conductors, made Mahler into a classical-music household name. Mahler's symphonies are played every year all over the world, and he is firmly ensconced in the so-called canon of standard orchestral repertoire.

Would it surprise you to know that Franck's D Minor Symphony once had the same reputation? It was played almost every year by most major orchestras, it was recorded by all the great conductors, and it was a fixture of the canon just like a Brahms symphony. Nowadays you would be lucky if, outside of France and Belgium, you hear Franck's Symphony once every five years, if that.

The truth is that, other than a short golden period for this symphony, it has either been controversial (around the time it was premiered) or ignored (nowadays), which is a real shame, since it is a glorious piece that I would argue is drastically underrated in our modern world. The symphony was radically innovative for its time, which probably explains some of the more virulent criticism it received, but even though those innovations now sound completely normal to our ears, they are still at the heart of what makes this symphony so profoundly satisfying to listen to.

Ahead of my performances of the symphony in Lille this December, I wanted to dive in and explore this unfairly ignored masterpiece. In about 40 minutes of music in three grand movements, Franck pours his soul into this work. That phrase sounds a bit cliché, I know, but I really mean it; there is an earnestness about this music that I find deeply moving, and it is something we will explore together today.

We will talk about Franck's late entry into the world of composition, his reputation as an organist, and the challenges he faced in finding acceptance as a composer. Along the way, we will discuss this gorgeous piece in all of its passion and intensity. Join us!

Transcript

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0:00.0

Hello and welcome to Sticky Notes, the Classical Music Podcast. My name is Joshua

0:17.1

Weilerstein. I'm a conductor, and I'm the music director of the Orchestra National

0:20.6

De Lille, and the chief conductor of the Allborg Symphony. This podcast is for anyone who loves

0:26.0

classical music, works in the field, or is just getting ready to dive in to this amazing world

0:30.8

of incredible music. Before we get started, I want to thank my new Patreon sponsors, Catherine, Louis,

0:37.3

Guillaume Henri, Ola, Claudia, and all of my new Patreon sponsors, Catherine, Louis, Guillaudi, Ola, Claudia,

0:40.0

and all of my other Patreon sponsors for making Season 10 possible.

0:44.4

If you'd like to support the show, please head over to patreon.com slash siky Notes podcast.

0:49.4

And if you are a fan of the show, please take a moment to give us a rating or review on Apple Podcasts or Spotify.

0:55.3

It is greatly appreciated.

0:59.2

So I've got a bit of time off after a really wild few weeks where I was in Allborg,

1:04.0

then in Birmingham, and then in London with the Guildhall School of Music and Drama,

1:08.8

doing Tchaikovsky's Fourth Symphony, Shostakovich's seventh symphony in Birmingham,

1:12.7

Shostakovich's 10th symphony in Allborg, and now I'm preparing for Shostakovich's 11th symphony

1:18.9

in Vancouver. I'll be going there in a couple of weeks, and then after that, to Lille, to do the

1:25.3

Frank Symphony in D minor, the topic for today's show.

1:28.9

I really love this piece, and I think if you are a skeptic of it, I hope that I can change

1:34.1

your mind.

1:35.0

This is something that I've actually learned later on in my life that people are skeptical

1:39.2

of this piece.

1:40.3

So I've worked pretty hard to try to change those hearts and minds with this episode today.

1:45.9

I really hope you enjoy it. Thanks so much for listening.

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