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Frances Fox Piven: Movements Still Matter

The Dig

Daniel Denvir

News, Politics

4.81.7K Ratings

🗓️ 7 February 2018

⏱️ 90 minutes

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Summary

Four decades ago, Frances Fox Piven and her husband Richard Cloward published Poor People's Movements: Why They Succeed, How They Fail, a classic, clear-eyed analysis of just what the title suggests. Piven, a legendary scholar and activist, talks to Dan about her life, Occupy, Bernie, the Democratic Party, anti-war movements, black bloc, mass incarceration and more. (Also: Dan’s voice sounds a little different because he had to record in a different room.) Thanks to Verso Books and University of California Press. Check out Check out The Great Cowboy Strike: Bullets, Ballots and Class Conflicts in the American West by Mark A. Lause versobooks.com/books/2592-the-great-cowboy-strike and Chicago on the Make: Power and Inequality in a Modern City by Andrew J. Diamond ucpress.edu/ebook.php?isbn=9780520961715

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0:00.0

This episode of The Dig is brought to you by our supporters on Patreon and by Verso Books,

0:06.7

which has loads of great left-wing titles perfect for dig listeners like you.

0:12.8

One that you might like is The Great Cowboy Strike, Bullets, Ballots, and Class Conflicts in the American West by Mark A. Laos.

0:23.7

In the pantheon of American icons, the cowboy embodies the traits of rugged individualism,

0:30.8

independent, solitary, and stoical. In reality, cowboys were grossly exploited and underpaid seasonal workers, who responded to the abuses of their employers in a series of militant strikes.

0:44.7

Their resistance arose from the rise and demise of a beef bonanza that attracted international capital.

0:51.3

Business interests approached the market with the expectation that it would

0:55.0

have the same freedom to brutally impose its will as it had exercised on native peoples and

1:00.3

recently emancipated African Americans. These assumptions contributed to a series of bitter

1:06.1

and violent range wars, which broke out from Texas to Montana and framed the appearance of labor

1:12.4

conflicts in the region. These social tensions stirred a series of political insurgencies that

1:18.6

became virtually endemic to the American West of the Gilded Age. Marque Laos explores the

1:24.8

relationship between these neglected labor conflicts, the range wars,

1:29.1

and the third-party movements. The Great Cowboy Strike subverts American mythology

1:34.6

to reveal the class abuses and inequalities that have blinded a nation to its true history and

1:41.0

nature. The Great Cowboy Strike, bullets, ballots, and class conflicts

1:46.1

in the American West by Mark A. Laos. Out now from Verso Books.

2:00.0

Welcome to The Dig, a podcast from Jacobin Magazine.

2:04.7

My name is Daniel Denver, and I'm broadcasting from Providence, Rhode Island.

2:10.7

No one has provided a more clear-eyed and exacting study of why movements win then Francis Fox Piven, and her late husband and

2:19.9

collaborator Richard Cloward. Today, Piven is my guest. Four decades after poor people's movements,

2:28.1

why they succeed, how they fail, was published. Their insights into unemployed people's and labor movements of the 1930s and the later

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