Pushkin. This is talk easy. I'm San Frigoso. Welcome to the show. Hey yo, yo, you,

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and he Hey everyone. Thanks for being here. Today on the show I am very honored to have on the

in imitable Fran Leibowitz.

She's a writer known for two books, Metropolitan Life, and Social Studies.

Both are collections of stories she wrote for Interview magazine back in the late 70s early 80s

these stories which mostly focus on New York City living are humorous human and, and biting.

They serve as incisive commentaries on a changing city in the people therein.

But mostly, they are very, very funny.

Since the publication of those two books, they are very very funny.

Since the publication of those two books, she's developed a kind of notorious writers block.

We'll get into that.

These days before COVID, she's made a career out of talking at universities and institutions around the world.

This pension for talking was documented in a film called Public Speaking, directed by her longtime friend, Martin Scorsese.

In fact, the pair have a forthcoming Netflix series focused on Fran walking and talking

around New York.

As you'll hear, Fran has a willingness to talk about everything.

Race, class, art, politics, fame, gay rights, and so that's what we did.

For the sake of categorization, she is a public intellectual,

but she's not all that public.

She's completely averse to 21st century technology.

If I'm honest, she's not that thrilled about 20th century technology either.

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