Framing: A Guide to Thinking in the 21st Century

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🗓️ 8 June 2021

⏱️ 55 minutes

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An industrialist looks at a rain forest and sees trees to cut down and sell, while an environmentalist sees the ‘lungs of the planet’. To one person, complying with a mandate to wear a face mask in public during a pandemic is an act of communal responsibility. To another, it’s a denial of personal freedom. Same data, but opposite conclusions. The reason for this, believe internationally acclaimed authors Kenneth Cukier and Viktor Mayer-Schönberger, is that we all look at the world through different ‘frames’. By recognising the frames that we are using, they say, we can all learn to rethink them and make better decisions. We can see the world in entirely new ways. In May 2021 Cukier and Mayer-Schönberger came to Intelligence Squared to share their insights. In conversation with science writer Timandra Harkness they explained how our ability to adjust our vantage point on the world is the essential skill humanity needs for the 21st century and will help us address the looming challenges we face, from pandemics to populism, AI to cyberattacks, wealth inequality to climate change. As examples, they pointed to the way Spotify beat Apple by framing music as experience, how the #MeToo Twitter hashtag reframed the perception of sexual assault, and how, as they argued, the UK’s decision to frame Covid-19 as seasonal flu led to disaster, while New Zealand’s framing it as SARS led to only 26 deaths. The event was hosted by Timandra Harkness. To buy the book click here: https://www.primrosehillbooks.com/product/framers-kenneth-cukier-viktor-mayer-schoenberger-francis-de-vericourt-bookomi/ ---------- This week’s episode is sponsored by Transport for London. Visit madeby.tfl.gov.uk/i-stand-with to find out more about how TfL are standing up against hate crime on the public transport network. Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/intelligencesquared. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	Hello, I'm Rory Stewart, and I'd like to tell you about an intelligent squared event
0:04.8	I'm doing with the classicist author and broadcaster Mary Beard. Together we'll be discussing
0:10.1	politics and power from the Caesars to Sunack, who gets to Winpar, who is excluded. Does power
0:16.6	always corrupt or other examples of leaders who've maintained their integrity while an authority?
0:22.2	And how does the nature of power vary across different times and cultures? These are just
0:26.6	some of the questions that Mary and I will be trying to answer. In person tickets are now sold
0:31.4	out, but you can still watch online on the 13th of November at 7pm BST. Put your questions
0:37.0	to us live as we discuss power and politics down the edges. Hello podcast listeners, a quick
0:42.8	reminder before we go to this week's episode that intelligent squared is back for in-person
0:47.6	discussions and debates from September 2021. If you'd like to come along to our debates on China,
0:53.6	net zero, the future of capitalism, or the future of the Labour Party, just go to
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1:08.2	and you'll be able to listen back to your question and debate on the subsequent podcast.
1:12.4	To get tickets, just go to IntelligentSquared.com slash attend. But now let's go to this week's
1:17.2	podcast with Victor Meyer Schroenberger and Kenneth Cookier on Framing, a guide to thinking
1:22.0	in the 21st century. Thank you very much and it's a great pleasure to be here, wherever here is,
1:29.0	which perhaps that's something we should talk about later on, whether in fact COVID has
1:34.3	completely reframed what events even are and the whole of time and space. So I'm delighted to
1:39.7	introduce you to speakers tonight, partly because I really enjoyed their first book, which I'll
1:46.4	come on to in a moment. So we have two of the three authors of this book that we're going to be
1:52.0	talking about. We have Victor Meyer Schroenberger, who is Professor of Internet Governance and
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