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Notes from America with Kai Wright

Fragility in Liberty

Notes from America with Kai Wright

WNYC Studios

News Commentary, Politics, History, News

4.41.5K Ratings

🗓️ 20 February 2020

⏱️ 42 minutes

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Summary

Many of us associate the Statue of Liberty with the poem mounted on her pedestal: “Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free.” The monument has become a symbol of immigration. What fewer of us know is that Lady Liberty was originally conceived as a tribute to the abolition of slavery. In fact, what we find as we look into history is that our country's immigration policy is closely intertwined with the end of Reconstruction and rise of Jim Crow. In this episode, we tell the story of one undocumented immigrant—Carlos Aguirre-Venegas—and trace the origins of a little-known law that's now being used to prosecute tens of thousands of people who crossed the border, separate some from their children, and lock them away in federal prisons. - Jim Elkin is a National Park Ranger at Statue of Liberty National Monument - Eric Foner is author of The Second Founding - Kelly Lytle Hernandez is a professor of History, African American Studies, and Urban Planning at UCLA and author of City of Inmates Hosted by Kai Wright. Reported by Seth Freed Wessler, in partnership with Type Investigations. Produced and edited by Christopher Werth. For more on Seth's reporting about Carlos Aguirre-Venegas and the privately-run prisons used exclusively to incarcerate non-citizens convicted of crimes, see his 2016 investigation in The Nation.

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0:00.0

I'm Kai Wright and this is the United States of anxiety a show about the unfinished business of our history and its grip on our future. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, we yeah.

0:25.0

I think we can.

0:27.0

I think this is our boat coming now.

0:33.0

A few weeks ago, I went with one of our producers down to Lower Manhattan,

0:37.0

and I got on a ferry at 7 a.m. to do something New Yorkers never really do.

0:41.0

Last time I was the fourth grade.

0:43.0

Well, at least not as adults.

0:45.0

Fearland Williams was a Bronx kid.

0:47.0

So there's a picture of me and my sister like leaned up against it

0:51.0

and that's it.

0:52.0

That's my memory of the Statue of Liberty.

0:54.0

Well, it's fourth grade. It's a long time ago.

0:56.0

Not that long ago, guy.

1:00.0

But this is one of the most visited tourist sites in all of the United States.

1:04.0

I mean at the peak of tourist season, it's something like 25,000 people a day.

1:09.0

Board fairies and ride out to get an up close look at Lady Liberty.

1:12.9

It's such an arresting visual, you know,

1:14.8

you get the whole back of Lady Liberty

1:18.4

and World Trade Center rising in the fog.

1:22.0

And it is really a cool experience.

1:23.8

Honestly, I mean, you ride through New York Harbor,

1:26.3

the skyscrapers of Manhattan receding behind you

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