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Fr. James Martin, SJ: Moral Courage in an Age of Approval

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🗓️ 19 April 2026

⏱️ 54 minutes

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Today, we’re honored to share a conversation with Father James Martin, a Jesuit priest, a New York Times bestselling author, and the founder of Outreach, a ministry for LGBTQ Catholics. His new memoir is called Work in Progress: Confessions of a Busboy, Dishwasher, Caddy, Usher, Factory Worker, Bank Teller, Corporate Tool, and Priest. And yes, he held every one of those jobs before he found his calling. But beneath the laughs, this book is really about the slow, unglamorous, often uncomfortab...

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Hey everybody, we just wanted to let you know about an event that's coming up. It's the first ever

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Faith Matters Family Night. We'll be joining with for Little Saints for an evening of music,

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storytelling, and connection designed for families, both parents and kids. So if you're looking

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for ways to nourish a deep and thoughtful faith, we hope that you'll come join us. There'll be live

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music from Emily Susan Pack, short inspiring reflections

0:21.3

on faith and family from Whitney Call and Lauren Yarrow, food and community building and simple

0:26.2

activities for kids. So come bring your kids exactly as you are, exactly as they are,

0:31.3

and we'll see you on May 1st from 6 to 715 at the Big Pavilion in Kiwanis Park in Provo, Utah.

0:37.4

The link to RSVP is in the show notes,

0:39.2

and we can't wait to see you there.

0:41.8

Hey everybody, this is Aubrey Chavez from Faith Matters. Today we are so honored to share

0:46.2

a conversation with Father James Martin, a Jesuit priest, New York Times best-selling author,

0:51.0

and the founder of Outreach, a ministry for LGBTQ Catholics.

0:55.3

His new memoir is called Work in Progress, Confessions of a Busboy, Dishwasher,

0:59.5

Caddy, Usher, Factory Worker, Bank Teller, Corporate Tool, and Priest.

1:03.2

And yes, he held every one of these jobs before he found his calling.

1:06.9

But Beneath the Laft, this book is really about the slow, unglamorous, often uncomfortable

1:11.1

work of transformation. In our conversation today, Father Jim talks about growing up

1:15.9

desperate to be liked and what it has looked like to become someone willing to speak up and

1:20.1

make waves when it matters. We talk about the difference between kindness and people-pleasing,

1:24.9

about staying connected to religious institutions that can both nourish

1:28.2

and wound us, and why he believes doubt is a natural part of a living, growing faith. In a moment when

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