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And then, master's orientation and collision, he impacts about 20 feet beyond my cockpit.

I remember being stuck up in my seat and I'm like, what just happened? I reached down to the stick

and I'm trying to control the aircraft as I'm like being pushed up in the seat because my aircraft

is telling me to describe, but I also don't know that at this time. I just remember trying to

gain control and nothing like the aircraft's not talking to me at all and then I distinctly

remember looking up and we have three rear-view mirrors in the A15C and they were completely orange.

The plane was completely engulfed in flames and so I make the decision very quickly after that,

like I got to get out.

Strap in for the Fighter pilot podcast, the internet radio show that explores the fascinating

world of air combat, the aircraft, the weapon systems, and most importantly, the people.

Now, here's your host, retired US Navy Fighter pilot, Vincent ILO.

Hello and welcome to episode 148. I am your host, Jello, and today we are talking saving lives

through collision avoidance systems with our two past F-35 guests here on the show.

One of whom, as you just heard, was involved in a mid-air collision back in 2008.

We'll get to that in a little bit and I hope you did your homework by listening past the flyby

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