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This week on the fighter pilot podcast

The combat dog fight is nothing more than a gladiad elect struggle to the death.

And as I've often said, it has only one rule,

and that is Durano rules. Hello, I'm not here.

Come on, Brad.

What I'm going to do.

I'm going to be going bad.

I'm going to that. I'm going to be bad.

I'm trying to get out here. Well, I'm glad.

I have to see. Hello everyone and welcome to the fighter pilot

podcast the internet radio show that explores the fascinating world of

air combat my name is Vincent I yellow I am your host and today we have a very special treat for you.

We are going to skip the announcements and listener questions for the time being and instead

proceed straight to the interview because with me in studio today is a gentleman who has spent nearly that last half century in service to this nation including 12 years on active duty in the United States Navy,

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