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On with Kara Swisher

Fox News, Dominion — oh, and Donald Trump

On with Kara Swisher

New York Magazine

Society & Culture

4.23.2K Ratings

🗓️ 15 December 2022

⏱️ 48 minutes

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Summary

What’s one way to stop misinformation? It might just be a giant defamation lawsuit. This week, media titan Rupert Murdoch was deposed in a $1.6 billion suit brought by Dominion Voting Systems against Fox News and Fox Corporation. They allege Fox knowingly and maliciously aired baseless claims accusing Dominion of an election fraud conspiracy. Somewhat surprisingly, instead of settling out of court, Fox News is denying the allegations, and the case is scheduled to go to trial in April. To unpack the lawsuit and the revelations it has brought (and will continue to bring) to light, we turned to New York Times reporter Jeremy Peters, who says this could be “one of the most consequential First Amendment cases in a generation.” He breaks down the case, the souring Murdoch-Trump alliance and Fox News’s future. Plus, we review Ron DeSantis’s chances in 2024 (outlook: not good) and Ben Shapiro and Elon Musk’s chances of one day besting Murdoch (outlook: somewhat better). You can find Kara and Nayeema on Twitter @karaswisher and @nayeema.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hi everyone from New York Magazine in the Vox Media Podcast Network.

0:10.2

This is justice with Judge Janine with 100% less white wine.

0:15.5

Just kidding.

0:16.5

No shard nae for me.

0:17.6

This is on with Cara Swisher and I'm Cara Swisher.

0:20.3

And I'm Neymaraza.

0:21.3

Neither of us really drink, but we would need to if we were doing Judge Janine on Fox News.

0:25.7

Allegedly.

0:26.7

Allegedly.

0:27.7

Yeah, we need a Vox wine in that case, yeah.

0:28.9

By the way, Fox News actually canceled that show, I think.

0:31.8

That's poor out of glasses, they say.

0:33.6

Our interview today is about this topic actually, well, about Fox News.

0:38.4

And particularly the $1.6 billion defamation suit that Fox News and Fox Corp are facing

0:44.8

in their coverage of Dominion Voting Systems in the 2020 elections.

0:48.6

This is the biggest defamation case we've seen in recent years, much more consequential

0:51.8

than Johnny Depp versus Amber Heard, in my opinion, the more people were watching that

0:56.1

one.

0:57.1

Could be a real blow to Fox News.

0:59.7

Yes.

1:00.7

Dominion says they were defamed repeatedly as part of this rigged election conspiracy theory

1:04.5

that appeared on outlets like Fox and also on Newsmax and OANN.

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