Founders Fund, it is one of the most prestigious VC firms.

It's behind some of the most recognizable names in tech today.

Early investors in Facebook, Airbnb, Spotify, Lyft.

Joining me now for an exclusive interview is partner Trey Stevens, an early Palantier employee also who also co-founded defense firm Andrill that startup most recently valued at 8.5 billion dollars.

Just landed a contract with US Army yesterday on top of a Navy

contract earlier this year. Trey hello thank you for joining me.

Hi how are you? Let's start with defense. You know, we've seen this trend of government agencies increasingly embracing startups like Andrell

versus the broader often more mature companies, even mature tech companies that they've typically worked with.

Why does that shift occurring?

I think there's a lot of reasons, you know, that we went through this 30 year period

after the Cold War where the, you where the risks to the country were kind of unclear where we

went through total superiority and then counterinsurgency, counter terrorism, and we're kind of

of re-entering this era of great power conflict and

trying to figure out who are the types of people that we need to work on the core

problems and a lot of those people have been working in internet companies,

optimizing ads and figuring out ways to share 140 characters

with their friends more effectively.

And we need to draw some of those people

back into these areas of national significance.

I remember at the beginning of sort of one government agency started to look at working more

closely with tech companies, Google was there.

But there was a big blowback inside the company, its employees and its sort of vibe was to not

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