We stand undivided forever united Fighting hand in hand for the liberty we burn for glory and honor

for our sons and daughters ever mindful of the lessons we learn

let the torch of freedom burn

Welcome to the intersection of faith in the culture

this is Walbiter's Live, hidden the topics of policy and faith in the culture

from a biblical, historical and a constitutional perspective

this week we've got a special series for you we're sharing with you some of the television program foundations of freedom

we've been at it all week and today we're going to pick up the conclusion of yesterday's program

which was Michelle Bachman, Congresswoman Michelle Bachman and David Barton on foundations of law

and then we're going to dive into another program with Dr. Carol Swain on the Bible and Civil Justice

but first we're going to pick up where we left off yesterday with Michelle Bachman and David Barton

talking about the foundations of law

think of what that means, separation of church and state

what did it look like to our early fathers and mothers

it was keeping God in the middle of everything but you did not allow the leaders of the civil government to tell you what church to attend

what your conscience beliefs were, what you would be penalized with

I actually have lost it

because penalty was key

penalty was key

that was your key word

because now civil government would penalize me because I didn't believe the way they wanted me to

and guess what, that is not civil government's jurisdiction

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