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Fossil Fuel Flops at COP28

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🗓️ 15 December 2023

⏱️ 37 minutes

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Summary

According to the resolution signed at the end of the 28th meeting of the Conference of the Parties to the United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change (UNFCCC), or COP28 for short, fossil fuels have finally been sentenced to a slow and painful death. This year’s global climate summit, held in the United Arab Emirates, ended with an overtime session that resulted with the nations agreeing to transition away from fossil fuels for the first time in COP history. But what does this really mean, and is the language as strong as it could have been? Lawfare Associate Editor Hyemin Han talked to Director of the Center for Climate and Security and Lawfare Contributing Editor Erin Sikorsky about the final deal language, what else happened at COP28, and the geopolitical implications of the clean energy transition. 

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T's and sees apply. You know, the U.S. investment in renewables and clean energy is huge and growing and that's really important. and

1:13.3

growing and that's really important, but you can't just grow that.

1:16.5

You also have to reduce the oil and gas, right?

1:19.7

You don't want to keep growing both of them going forward. I think also for the US, you know, maybe I'm

1:24.9

beating a dead horse here, but these finance questions I think are really important and

1:29.1

again one thing we've been working on at the Center for Climate and Security is to make the case that

1:33.4

investing in climate finance and whether it's finance for the energy

1:37.7

transition or finance for adaptation is an invest security investment for the U, right? You're buying down future risk in

1:47.1

vulnerable places where climate hazards or the inability to transition to clean

1:52.2

energy could lead to instability.

1:55.0

And so making those investments, I think that's something the U.S. has to get its head around.

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