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From KQBD in San Francisco, this is Forum. I'm Mina Kim.

I experience your wounds as if they were my own, reads the last line of Clint Smith's poem, No Seception.

Directed to a child, it explains that just as a sea creature that loses an appendage feels

discomfort across its entire body, so does a parent whose child is in pain. The poem is part

of Smith's new collection, above ground, which also celebrates the joy, wonder, and occasional absurdity of being

apparent. We'll talk to Smith about what he calls the simultaneity of the human experience.

And we want to hear from you. Do you remember feeling joy amid despair, awe, alongside fear? Join us. Welcome to Forum. I'm Mina Kim. Clint Smith's new poetry collection starts with a

preface of two quotes, one from his daughter and one from his son. The one from his son reads,

Have you ever wondered what it would be like to be a ladybug? And the one from his son. The one from his son reads, have you ever wondered what it would be like to be a ladybug?

And the one from his daughter is, when I grow up, I want to be the son.

Smith's new collection is called Above Ground, reflecting on fatherhood, the intense ways children can make us feel,

and how they can completely change the

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