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Forum From the Archives: Bettina Love on How Black Students are 'Punished for Dreaming'

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4.2 • 726 Ratings

🗓️ 23 November 2023

⏱️ 56 minutes

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Summary

Brown v Board of Education, the landmark civil rights decision banning racial segregation in public schools, was supposed to give Black children greater educational opportunities. But instead, according to Columbia Teachers College professor Bettina Love, it marked the beginning of an anti-Black educational agenda, characterized by low academic expectations, excessive suspensions, surveillance and physical violence. Love grew up in the 1980s and 90s, a period when the Reagan and Bush administrations pushed ideas of “school accountability” and “school safety” that she says were used to justify punishment of Black children and that have harmed a generation. We talk to Love about her and her peers’ experiences in school as “eighties babies” and why she thinks reparations are essential to repair public education. Guests: Bettina Love, professor at Teachers College, Columbia University; author, "Punished for Dreaming: How School Reform Harms Black Children and How We Heal" Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Coming up on forum, if you went to public schools in the 80s and 90s, you went under the educational policies of the Reagan, George H.W. Bush, and Clinton administrations.

1:03.4

Columbia University Teachers College professor Bettina Love's new book is an indictment of those policies and the impact of the last four decades of education

1:11.9

reform on black students. Called Punished for Dreaming, it's an accounting of the damage she says

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they caused and a call for repair. We'll listen back to my September conversation with love

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and hear what you remember about the way you or other black students were treated in your high

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school years.

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Welcome to Forum. I'm Mina Kim.

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Columbia University professor Bettina Love says that for too many black students in the 80s and 90s, high school was not a place of learning, but of harm, a place where students were punished with low expectations, physical violence, and suspensions. It was when the Reagan administration issued its 1983, a nation at risk report, which Love describes as full of alarmist language about the failures of U.S. public schools that proposed a get-tuff stance toward them. Love's new book

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Punished for Dreaming, is both an unflinching analysis of that time and a personal reflection.

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