I'm Natalie Moore. I fell in love with soap operas when I was just five years old, and I still

watch them. Their television's longest scripted series and have zero reruns. Now let me tell you,

soap operas aren't just some silly art form. They are significant. In this season of making,

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Could you just do a big heavy sigh right at the beginning?

And here we are.

From WBEZ Chicago, this is Nerdette.

I'm Greta Johnson.

And I'm Trisha Bobita.

It has been an intense week that culminated two really intense years of political campaigns.

And we thought to help put things into perspective for us.

We would talk to a woman who has accomplished a number of firsts in her own political career.

We're talking this week with Carol Mosley-Bron.

Carol Mosley-Bron was the first African-American woman elected to the U.S. Senate in 1992.

After that, she served as the American ambassador to New Zealand, a pretty sweet gig. And in 2004, she ran for the Democratic nomination for president, but dropped out in the primaries. With decades of experience in American politics as a woman, we figured she might have some perspective on this week. So let's get right to it.

Ambassador Braun, thank you so much for being

here. Thank you so much, Greta. It's my pleasure, my honor to be here with you. So we're a couple

days out from the election now. We're sitting at a studio here at WBEZ in Chicago. I wonder what

election night was like for you. Where were you? Well, I was at home. I stayed up as late as I could. I woke up

the next morning. As a friend of mine said, in morning, M-O-U-R-N-I-N-G, so it was pretty traumatic for me.

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