Now we turn to James Story, who spent 25 years in the U.S. State Department and most recently served as the top U.S. diplomat to Venezuela.

Ambassador, thank you so much for being with us. Clearly, the military achieved its mission here.

But as you wrote today, tactical victories do not portend success in terms of the wider strategy. How do you think the

strategy is playing out so far? Well, the first question is, what's the desired in-state?

And is the desired in-state is regime change, but we don't have that. What you have is a removal

of the top of the regime where you cut the head off one part of the head of a hydra,

and you have the rest of the regime in power. Very laudatory words about Delci Rodriguez,

but at the end of the day, Delci has been very adamant that what we did was kidnapped Nicholas

Maduro. So it remains to be seen exactly what the in-state we're seeking is.

Yeah, so what do you make of the fact that President Trump today said that Rodriguez was planning

to work with the United States?

And then just a few hours later, she said basically exactly the opposite.

Well, it is curious.

I don't know if this is the case of the dog that didn't bark or the dog that barks too

much, but at the end of the day, what the president also said was that if we didn't have

the right kind of support, there would be a second wave of attacks. For me, there's a clear

indicator here. Are the wrongfully detained American citizens being released

and are the political and military prisoners that are being held in the torture center called

the Helecoide? Are they being released? And if they're not, then this is just the same regime by

different leadership. I'd like to play for you some sound from Democratic Senator Tim Kane today,

who criticized this, as did many

other critics, saying that this was illegal and unwise. Take a listen.

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