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Fresh Air

Former U.S. Ambassador To Ukraine, Marie Yovanovitch

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🗓️ 15 March 2022

⏱️ 46 minutes

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Summary

Yovanovitch was relieved of her post following a smear campaign orchestrated by Trump lawyer, Rudy Giuliani. She also testified at Trump's first impeachment. Her new memoir is 'Lessons from the Edge.'

Also, Maureen Corrigan reviews a new collection of the novels of esteemed YA author Virginia Hamilton.

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0:00.0

This is fresh air, I'm Terry Gross.

0:02.7

My guest, Marie Ivanovich, was one of the star witnesses of Trump's first impeachment,

0:07.7

the one that revolved around his dealings with Ukraine.

0:10.8

As you may remember, she was the US ambassador to Ukraine, who Trump fired after a smear campaign

0:16.8

that Rudy Giuliani played a major role in.

0:19.7

Trump saw her as disloyal.

0:21.9

She was fired soon after she declined to pledge her loyalty to Trump.

0:27.2

When Trump's infamous call with Ukrainian President Filotomir Zelensky, or as Trump described

0:32.4

it his perfect phone call, Zelensky asked Trump for weapons to help fight the Russians

0:37.2

who had invaded Crimea and the region in Ukraine known as the Donbass.

0:42.2

Trump responded by requesting a favor to dig up dirt in Ukraine on Joe Biden and his

0:47.4

son Hunter.

0:48.6

In that same call, Trump also described Ambassador Ivanovich as bad news and said she was

0:54.8

going to go through some things.

0:57.5

Ivanovich was appointed ambassador to Ukraine by President Obama in May 2016, a couple of

1:02.9

years after Russia invaded Crimea.

1:05.8

She was recalled to Washington in April 2019, just a few days after Zelensky's election.

1:11.8

She was terminated as Ambassador the following month.

1:15.0

She's now a senior fellow at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace and a non-resident

1:19.6

fellow at Georgetown University.

1:22.1

She's written a new memoir called Lessons From the Edge.

1:27.2

Ambassador Ivanovich, welcome to Fresh Air.

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