And then along came this man, Donald Trump. This orange guy came down the escalator in 2015 and won me over.

And I was one of the most public and vocal supporters of Donald Trump advocating for him and for the movement.

When I looked at what Ron DeSantis did in 2020 and during COVID, it was nothing short of monumental.

So that's when I first came to really admire from afar

Ronda Santis. What is your message to someone that maybe liked Trump, had a lot of affinity

for him, voted for him twice? What would you say to convince them that DeSantis is actually

the better option? I would also humbly ask you to consider who is the best option to both win and then implement a very conservative patriotic, populist agenda.

Oh, my. Hey guys, just wanted to provide a quick disclaimer.

Steve Cortez does in fact run the DeSantis Never Backdown Pack.

Catholic vote has not officially endorsed anyone.

However, he did take the time to come make the Catholic case for DeSantis.

That being said, we do welcome any candidate or any representative for those candidates to come

make the case for their candidate for 2024. I reiterate, before we start, Catholic Vote has not

endorsed anyone, but we really thank Steve Cortez and the DeSantis team for taking the time to

speak directly to Loopcast audience and Loopers themselves. Enjoy the episode. God bless everyone. Welcome back to

the loopcast. Today, I am joined with a man in a unique position. So he served as the senior

spokesperson and strategist for the 2016 and 2020 campaigns for Donald Trump and is now the

national spokesperson for Ron DeSantis

and the never back, never back down pack. His name is Steve Cortez. Steve, thank you so much

for joining the program today. Hey, Tom, thanks for having me. Appreciate it. Of course. And I'm

going to take all the tips I can get because you're a man that spent a lot of time in front of

the camera. You've been on many news programs. You were in on fast money back in the day. I think

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