Former State Dept. Dir. Josh Paul

Amanpour

CNN

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4.1 • 1K Ratings

🗓️ 4 December 2023

⏱️ 57 minutes

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Summary

Soon after Hamas attacked Israel on October 7th, Josh Paul resigned from the US State Department in protest of what he said were unscrutinized arms transfers to Israel. In his resignation letter, Paul said the Israeli response and American support, "will only lead to more and deeper suffering for both the Israeli and Palestinian people.” He joins Christiane to discuss Also on today's show: Israeli human rights lawyer May Pundak & Palestian human rights activist Rana Salman; reporter Arelis Hernández; actor Aria Mia Loberti Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	Hello everyone and welcome to Amampur. Here's what's coming up.
0:07.0	Israel expands its ground operation to all over Gaza as the U.S. makes public appeals to protect civilian lives.
0:15.5	I ask former State Department official Josh Paul why he resigned over this war.
0:20.5	Then an Israeli and a Palestinian peacemaker looked beyond this war to a final peace.
0:26.7	Plus, why are so many people dying in Puerto Rico?
0:30.7	Washington Post reporter Arelis Hernandez tells Harry Strenovasan.
0:35.0	And finally, all the light we cannot see.
0:37.9	I speak with newcomer Ariamir Loberto about taking Netflix by Storm. Welcome to the program everyone. I'm Christina Manpur in London. Israel is expanding
1:05.0	its ground operation to all over Gaza, warning civilians to move and evacuate yet
1:10.3	again. After three days of intense fighting and airstrikes, the US is stepping up its public
1:16.1	warnings as the death toll has risen to over 15,000, according to the Hamas authorities in Gaza.
1:22.4	US Defence Secretary Lloyd Austin according to the Hamas authorities in Gaza.
1:23.0	US Defence Secretary Lloyd Austin stressed Israel's quote
1:26.2	moral responsibility to protect civilians.
1:29.2	He also said it can affect the battlefield.
1:32.1	You see in this kind of a fight,
1:35.0	the center of gravity is the civilian population.
1:38.0	And if you drive them into the arms of the enemy,
1:41.0	you replace a tactical victory with a strategic defeat.
1:46.0	Vice President Kamala Harris weighed in from the COP28 Climate Summit in Dubai.
1:52.0	Too many innocent Palestinians have been killed.
1:56.0	Frankly, the scale of civilian suffering and the images and videos coming from Gaza are devastating.
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