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Fareed Zakaria GPS

Former Sec. of State Blinken on the Trump Administration’s Foreign Policy

Fareed Zakaria GPS

CNN

News

4.32.9K Ratings

🗓️ 21 December 2025

⏱️ 41 minutes

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Summary

Biden administration Secretary of State Antony Blinken sits down with Fareed for a wide-ranging conversation about his assessment of the Trump administration’s attempts to end the Ukraine war, the president’s decision to strike Iran in June, and Blinken’s reflections on the war in Gaza. GUESTS: Antony Blinken (@ABlinken); Jessica Stern (@JessicaEStern); David Miliband (@DMiliband) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

This is GPS, the Global Public Square.

0:04.0

Welcome to all of you in the United States and around the world.

0:07.0

I'm Farid Zakaria, coming to you from New York.

0:10.0

Today on the program,

0:13.0

Year 1 of Trump 2.0.

0:16.0

What has gone right and what has gone wrong.

0:20.0

I will ask that question to Joe Biden's Secretary of State. What has gone right and what has gone wrong.

0:26.0

I will ask that question to Joe Biden's Secretary of State, Anthony Blinken.

0:44.3

Also, the horrific shooting during the Hanukkah celebrations at Australia's Bondi Beach was inspired by Islamic State ideology, according to the Australian Prime Minister.

0:50.3

I'll talk to an expert.

1:00.0

Then, Sudan, the Palestinian territories, South Sudan, Ethiopia, Haiti. These are the places where people are most at risk in 2026, according to the International Rescue Committee.

1:09.0

I'll talk to that organization's president, David Miller,

1:11.6

about how the drop in aid from America and others

1:15.6

makes these desperate situations much, much worse.

1:23.6

But first, here's my take.

1:25.6

If there's a slogan that could be attached to the Trump administration's new national security strategy, it's simple.

1:33.3

Make America a regional power again.

1:36.3

The document begins by lambasting decades of American foreign policy that saw America as a global hegemon,

1:42.3

tending to its interests around the world,

1:45.1

promoting globalism, embracing global institutions, and shouldering global burdens.

1:50.7

Instead, we are told that the U.S. should define its interests much more narrowly.

1:55.0

While the NSS concedes a few interests in Europe and Asia, it says America's fundamental

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