My guest today is Dr. Peter Borussian. We happen to have the same blessing. My mother's

lesson is also Borussian. This is a very interesting person we're going to be talking to today.

He decides to troll academia by writing some hoax papers, which maybe we'll get into.

Also wrote a couple books. The book we'll talk about today is called How to Have

Impossible Conversations, a very practical guide, necessary skill to be able to learn how to do it

today. And September 2021, he resigned from his position at Portland State University,

citing harassment and a lack of intellectual freedom. Dr. Peter Borussian, it's great to have you on.

I listened to a couple of the interviews. They said Bogosian, Bogosian. It's, yeah, but the

ra, ra, ra, ra is an Armenian pronunciation and it's a little tough to do. Yeah, I tell everybody

it rhymes with explosion just to make it easy, explosion, begotion. There you go. There you go. So

Peter, I mean, listen, you're one entertaining, you're witty. You're one of those

genius scientists types that knows how to play the games to, you know, mess with the other guy,

but before we get into the book and before we get into some of the things that's going on,

maybe maybe why don't we talk about why you recently resigned from your job at Portland State

University? Yeah, I was going to keep expectations low for the interview. I resigned from my position

at Portland State University because I was hired to teach critical thinking and ethics and

the university became so woke and so utterly preoccupied with the issues of gender and race and

sexual orientation that it was not only was it infused in everything, but unless you towed the

party line, there were consequences to that. And so I just, I couldn't maintain my integrity and

teach there. And what does that mean? What has told party line? What does that mean in your world?

In my world, it means that there are certain conclusions that you have to have about, and by the way,

I actually share those conclusions, but certain conclusions that people have to have about, you know,

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