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🗓️ 14 February 2020
⏱️ 42 minutes
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In this bonus episode of Intelligence Matters, host Michael Morell interviews former Principal Deputy Director of National Intelligence Sue Gordon at the Michael V. Hayden Center for Intelligence, Policy And International Security at George Mason University’s Schar School Of Policy And Government. Morell and Gordon discuss the importance and evolution of the craft of intelligence, the effect of technological change, and the need to make unclassified intelligence available to a broader customer base. Gordon discusses her time in government – spanning seven presidencies – and the circumstances of her departure from the role of PDDNI last year.
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0:38.2 | Sue Gordon was until late last summer the principal deputy director for National Intelligence, |
0:43.6 | the second highest ranked position in the US intelligence community. |
0:47.5 | A career intelligence officer Sue has been on our show twice before. |
0:51.8 | I just interviewed Sue for an event at the Michael V. Hayden Center at the Shars School |
0:56.2 | at George Mason University and not surprisingly, she was as candid as ever. |
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1:09.3 | Martin. |
1:10.3 | I'm Michael Morrell, and this is a bonus episode of Intelligence Matters. |
1:20.3 | So this is really special for me. |
1:22.9 | Me too. |
1:24.2 | We started the same year at CIA. |
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