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full on our YouTube channel at Bobby 1 Podcast. Boom we're on and today's guess we've got Stephen Gillen how are you brother?

No it times nice to say today. First of all mate I just want to say

thanks for bringing me down to your lovely home in Windsor. You've got a very interesting story, a man who spent 17 years

in prison, category prisoner, surrounded with a lot of the heaviest people in the world

basically in this prison to a man who's winning peace prizes,

to a man who's traveling the world in private planes.

It's amazing what you've achieved from, it's a rag to Ritchie's kind of story and it's an unbelievable story. We've been speaking quite a lot the last few hours.

We're the last few weeks but today we'll go more in-depth. Obviously your story because it's a story that needs to be told

how are you? I'm good James I'm really good you know I'm a very grateful person I'm

very very aware of keeping myself focused on the real things and you know it was wonderful to see you really You know we've had a good chat with thoughts. You know you're a you're a great guy you know you're doing some great work so yeah

I'm very happy to be here so we can talk you know yeah so always go back to the

start Stephen Keynes are where you grew up and her all began.

Okay, yeah, I was, I was born in this country in 1971.

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