I mean, I've always looked at, I've always approached the idea of law and order from a, from a three-pronged perspective, and synergistically speaking. So you have our, our military, then you have our police officers and then you have civilians. And I've always felt like I have no problem with us. I'm very militaristic. And most of my friends hate me about that too. I'm perfectly fine with spending billions and billions of dollars making us the most powerful military in the world.

I know that might be naive. That's just me.

At the same time, I don't have a problem with police and law enforcement also being trained to the nines, being armed to the nines.

I don't have a problem with it I really don't at the same time

I also want civilians to be the same way and but I but I'm being idealistic here sure but I've

always wanted there to be a synergistic relationship between all three yeah right no you're

you're spot on and our entire way of life in America is based on checks and balances.

And it's not just in the government, right?

Yeah.

The entire, the elegance of the Second Amendment, right, shall not be infringed.

Who am I to interpret that, right?

So the clarity of the language there, it certainly it lends itself to where we are now.

And we are by far the most free people in the world.

But yeah, you know, as a policeman and then as a member of the FBI, and I totally get it.

I don't even want to look at like the comments

section at this point he's an open good boy oh my god right but this episode of the

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colo noir podcast and joining me is rock chapit it's great to be with you yeah I think last

time we talked I told you I've been a long-time admirer of what you do,

appreciate what you do for the Second Amendment community.

And now that I'm retired law enforcement, really appreciate what you do for the second minute.

Well, I mean, I'm not going to lie to you.

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