Former DOJ Dan Goldman Unloads on Bondi's Epstein Cover-up
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🗓️ 24 February 2026
⏱️ 48 minutes
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Summary
Former DOJ prosecutor Dan Goldman joins us to break down the growing firestorm around Pam Bondi, Donald Trump, and the Epstein files. As scrutiny over the Epstein investigation intensifies, Bondi’s defense of Trump raises serious questions about DOJ independence, selective prosecution, and political loyalty inside the Department of Justice.
Goldman explains what the Epstein files could mean for Trump legally, whether accountability is being delayed or deflected, and how the DOJ is supposed to function when powerful figures are involved. If you’re looking for clear analysis on Trump and Epstein, Pam Bondi’s role, DOJ ethics, and the fight over equal justice under the law — this is it.
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| 0:00.0 | I think we've only hit the tip of the iceberg. And it is devastating not only to our own national |
| 0:06.3 | security and our reputation abroad, but it is crushing to the rule of law and to our basic |
| 0:11.7 | fundamental democracy if you cannot trust anything that the FBI and DOJ does. |
| 0:17.7 | Your task will not be an easy one. Your enemy is well trained, well equipped, |
| 0:22.7 | and battle-hearted. There is not a liberal America and a conservative America. There is the United |
| 0:28.5 | States of America. Good night and good luck. |
| 0:34.6 | Hey, folks, welcome back to the Lincoln Project podcast. I'm your host. As always, Rick Wilson, glad to join you. |
| 0:40.0 | And we are honored today to have Dan Goldman, friend of the show, New York Congressman, |
| 0:44.6 | great guy. |
| 0:45.8 | And one of the folks you saw in the recent Epstein hearings, absolutely taken the stick |
| 0:51.2 | to Pam Bondi and the DOJ, rightly so. So Dan, I was delighted |
| 0:56.2 | to have you come on the show today. I want to just lead out by saying, what shocked you the most |
| 1:01.7 | in that in that hearing? I know there were a lot of moments that were very, you know, outside |
| 1:06.4 | of the pale, but what shocked you the most about Bondi andondi and the DOJ's presentation in that hearing? |
| 1:12.9 | How unbelievably juvenile and immature she seemed. It was really hard to believe that that was the |
| 1:24.1 | Attorney General of the United States who was testifying. So I really have just one question for you. |
| 1:30.3 | How many of Epstein's co-conspirators have you indicted? |
| 1:33.3 | How many perpetrators are you even investigating? |
| 1:42.3 | First, you showed it. I find it. How many have you indicted? Excuse me. I'm going to answer the question. I answer my question. No, I'm going to answer the question the way. You're going to answer the question. You're going to answer the question the way I asked it. Chairman Jordan, I'm not going to get in the gutter with these people, but I'm going to answer the question. How many of you invited? Again, the time belongs. Reclaiming my time. The time belongs. I think it's very interesting. I think it's very interesting that he talks about they indicted. The president said they indicted him twice. Mr. Chairman, please stop the clock and stop the clock and restore his time. All, okay. Here we go with these theatrics. |
| 2:17.8 | The time belongs to the gentleman from New York. |
| 2:20.9 | We will give you a few more seconds. |
| 2:22.2 | We will do that. |
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