Former Deputy Prime Minister John Anderson

Uncomfortable Conversations with Josh Szeps

Josh Szeps

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🗓️ 17 June 2024

⏱️ 59 minutes

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Summary

On September 11th, 2001, the Australian prime minister, John Howard, was scheduled to meet with President George W Bush at the White House. While he was hunkered down in Washington during the terrorist attacks, Australia was being run by his deputy, the Acting Prime Minister, John Anderson. John was the equivalent of Australia’s Vice President during some of the most significant events in recent history.

Anderson is a Christian conservative who opposed same-sex marriage and the 2023 indigenous referendum. He and Josh have a fascinating time, wrestling with the biggest issues of culture and politics -- from religious faith, to gay rights, to Gaza. He brings you his first-hand experience inside the halls of power. John now interviews public intellectuals on his podcast, Conversations with John Anderson.

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0:00.0	Gahy, humans.
0:03.4	Welcome to the safe space for dangerous ideas.
0:05.9	And today's show is a real ripper.
0:08.8	John Anderson was the 11th Deputy Prime Minister of Australia.
0:12.5	That's the equivalent of the Vice President in Australia.
0:14.9	In one of the most influential and reformist governments, the Howard government, he was
0:19.0	Deputy PM from 1999 to 2005. He was actually
0:24.1	the acting prime minister, meaning that he was technically the prime minister on September 11th,
0:29.6	2001, which we get into here. John and I are very different. I mean, he is a deeply conservative
0:35.7	Christian. I needless to say, am not. And I was interested
0:40.4	in his ideas about where culture is, where politics is, what the experience of being in office during
0:45.7	this momentous time at the beginning of this century was like. Something you need to know
0:51.8	in context, if you're not an Australian for this conversation, is that there was previously an airline in Australia called Anset, which was founded in 1936.
1:03.6	So it was a long-standing Australian carrier.
1:07.1	It was mostly domestic, but they also flew all over the Asia Pacific to China and Hong Kong,
1:11.3	Taiwan, Indonesia, and they collapsed in 2001.
1:16.2	That was the end of that airline.
1:17.6	And at the time, in addition to being Deputy Prime Minister, John Anderson was the Minister
1:21.1	for Transport.
1:22.6	He was dealing with the collapse of this major Australian company. It wasn't actually technically
1:28.6	Australian at the time. It was a member of the Star Alliance. It had a part share from
1:32.9	Singapore Airlines. It was mostly owned by New Zealand. It had been going through troubles for a few
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