Tracy Walder, welcome back.

Thank you for having me, Jordan.

I'm so excited.

Thank you for coming back on.

It means the world to me.

Well, it means the world to me that you have had me here and that I'm able to talk about these things.

So for everyone who missed our first episode, you are a former CIA officer, FBI special agent, worked in counterterrorism, black site interrogations,

hunt for Osama bin Laden.

If anyone has missed that first episode, we'll put the link to that in the description.

Tracy's amazing author of The Unexpected Spy, incredible book.

And obviously, the majority of what I talk about is fitness.

And we'll talk a little about fitness today.

But I also want to talk, get your expertise on current events going on in the world. Before we

dive into that, though, how are you? I'm doing great. I'm just happy to be here. How's your

family? Is everyone good? Everyone is good and happy and healthy. So let's dive in.

We'll keep a little bit on brand at first.

Let's talk about your own fitness.

What's going on with your own health and fitness, Tracy?

Yeah.

So I usually try to work out about four times a week.

Okay, cool.

Obviously, if I deviate from that, I don't really beat myself up.

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