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Hello, I'm Rachel Kurnleif, associate political editor at the New Statesman,

and you're listening to the New Statesman

podcast. This weekend far-right riots and violence have continued to spread

across the country after the killing of three young girls in Southport last

week.

Hundreds of people have been arrested following violent altercations

and the destruction and burning of hotels in Wotherham and Tamworth

where asylum seekers were living.

Nizir Afsal was a chief crown prosecutor in 2011 during the August riots that began in London

and then spread across the whole country.

He joined me today on the New States from Podcast to discuss how the far right

violence we have experienced in recent days is reminiscent of 2011. What has changed since

then and how the deaths of the young girls have been

overshadowed by this political agenda. So Nasir, thank you so much for joining us on

the podcast today. I want to start by asking just what your reflections are on what we've seen. on the civic

start by asking just what your reflections are on what we've seen over the past week in terms of the

the civic violence on our streets

good afternoon or good morning good evening whatever whatever time the day we are at and whatever

time we listen to this.

We must lose sight of the fact that three little girls died a week ago and despite what we're told that this is you know these rights and

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