Forgiveness After a Shooting
The Brian Lehrer Show
WNYC
4.6 • 1.5K Ratings
🗓️ 13 May 2024
⏱️ 22 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | No, that's not the Brian Lettier show theme. That's the TBC Brass Band playing a kind of New Orleans type version of the Whitney Houston song, I want to dance with somebody recognize it. |
| 0:24.3 | Why are we playing that? Our guest now Mark Hertz Guards sent us a link to that clip |
| 0:29.2 | because it was the song that was playing at a parade in New Orleans on Mother's Day 11 years ago |
| 0:35.9 | just before Mark and a group of other people were hit by gunfire in a mass |
| 0:41.9 | shooting, a Mother's Day mass shooting during a parade in |
| 0:46.0 | New Orleans. Mark went back to March in that same parade yesterday for this year's |
| 0:51.0 | Mother's Day. Some of you know the name Mark Hurtz-Gard. |
| 0:54.0 | He's usually on with us as Environment Correspondent for the Nation magazine. |
| 0:59.0 | And he's founder of the Covering Climate Now Media Consortium that inspired our Climate Story of |
| 1:05.1 | the Week series on this show. But this time he'll tell us about his experience of |
| 1:09.8 | being wounded himself in that mass shooting and the new book that it inspired called Big Red's Mercy, |
| 1:16.7 | the shooting of Deborah Cotton and a story of race in America. |
| 1:20.9 | Mark always good to have you on. |
| 1:22.2 | I never imagine it would be on |
| 1:23.4 | something like this, but now I know. Welcome back to WNYC. Thank you Brian. It's always a |
| 1:28.8 | pleasure to be with you all. And honestly for all we've talked it's only ever been about climate issues really and I had no idea you were shot in a mass shooting so |
| 1:38.0 | Before we get into the shooting and the larger issues you explore in the book would would you set the scene for us? |
| 1:44.1 | What was this parade and what was happening as that brass band was playing that |
| 1:49.2 | Whitney Houston song? |
| 1:50.3 | Sure, this was a second line parade here in New Orleans and second line parades are an |
| 1:56.8 | iconic ritual, even a sacred one I would say, they go back to the burial rights that enslaved Africans brought with them when they first started arriving in Louisiana back in 1722. |
| 2:10.0 | And over time, those burial rituals have evolved into what today are called second-line parades. |
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