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Welcome to the Side by Side, under the Believe Podcast Network.

It's a podcast about black science fiction and fantasy and staying on the same page of our marriage.

Today for episode 62, we'll be interviewing Patricia Jackson on her first novel,

her new novel, Foraging a Nightmare, and it is good, y'all.

It's good.

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