This is the Tom Hartman Program. And welcome to the program on the line with us, old buddy Peter Montgomery the research director

with the overseas right wing watch people for the American white P f a w right wing

watch dot org or p f a w dot org are the websites right wing watch on Twitter people for on twitter peat mott or P F-F-A-W dot-O-G-W-O-W-G-E-N-T-P-A-E-M-T, Peter Montgomery's ex-handle.

This Project 2025, you've been writing about it.

I think a lot of people you know they've heard

about it but they really don't know what's going on or they think it's just

some little thing that the Heritage Foundation came out with you know this following

on its mandate for leadership that goes back to the Reagan

era. Number one what is it and number two how is it different from previous efforts

to help Republican presidents? Heritage's own words and it's a plan to take the reins of government when Trump or another

Republican president takes office.

So they believe that Trump was stymied in his first term from accomplishing all that the right-wing

movement would have wanted him to accomplish.

So they have set a game plan.

They have a 900- page battle plan for every government department and

agency they have plans to purge tens of thousands of professional civil service employees to replace them with MAGA loyalists.

So Trump doesn't have to stumble over anybody telling him what he wants to do is against the law,

as he did in his first term and they want to end the independence of law enforcement agencies like the FBI and the Justice Department as well as independent agencies like the FBI and the Justice Department, as well as independent agencies like the Federal Communications Commission,

which oversee the media, and they want to do that

so that Trump can use the full power of the federal government

to take revenge on his personal and political enemies.

So on one hand, you could say this is part

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