Hello and welcome to another episode of prosecuting Donald Trump.

It is Monday, November 20th, but there's a little

bit later in the day because Mary and I wanted to make sure that we could cover the oral argument in DC on the gag order.

I'm gagging on the gag order, Mary, it's so funny. We are in the same room. We're at 30 Rock.

Just so everyone can visualize this. I am looking at Mary McCord with a microphone in front of her and their windows in either

side of her and to the left is St. Patrick's Cathedral at 50th Street and I should know this I'm a New Yorker I think right?

Mary yeah fifth I'm sorry well close one block away in New York the difference between fifth and sixth is like a

a mile and to the right of you to the left at St. Patrick's to the right of you is you got got the better view. I'm just now realizing what's to the right of me.

Yes exactly. So the tree is there and the lights are being put up but it's not yet on but that's

the famous Rockefeller tree with the

sexist Avenue behind it so anyway this couldn't be nicer. Okay so anyway

after we talk about the gagging gag order argument we We gag order argument. We will move to

Colorado where a state court judge there has denied the request to prevent

Mr. Trump from being on the ballot, but she made some very significant factual findings, including that he did in fact engage in an insurrection against the Constitution of the United States.

So we'll dig into that a little bit and what it is that she actually determined that is why she

didn't ultimately give the relief that the petitioners or that the plaintiffs were seeking.

Yep, so that's going to be fascinating and it's to me again it's like the reason for a podcast that we can sort of take a little bit deeper than what people have time for on the news.

And then the final thing is, and I can't believe that I'm the one who's covering this because I'm keeping my temper.

That's right. But I feel like you and I'm keeping my temper. That's right.

But I feel like you and I are a little bit vindicated because we're going to cover the latest from

Judge Cannon and we're just going to briefly talk about it, but spoiler alert is that it really confirms what we talked about in terms of what she is doing, whether intentionally or not.

But Mary, you and I had the pleasure of listening to a panel of three

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