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The Lawfare Podcast

Foreign Fighters in Ukraine

The Lawfare Podcast

The Lawfare Institute

Military, Intelligence, International Law, Constitutional Law, Rule Of Law, Politics, International Relations, News, Government, History, Diplomacy, Terrorism, National Security, Current Events, Law, Foreign Policy

4.76.2K Ratings

🗓️ 30 March 2022

⏱️ 36 minutes

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Summary

In the hours following Russia's invasion of Ukraine, Ukraine's foreign minister tweeted out a call for what he called an international legion of fighters to come to Ukraine and fight against Russia. And so far, it seems that some have heeded that call. Jacob Schulz talked with Daniel Byman, Lawfare’s foreign policy editor and a senior fellow at the Brookings Institution, who is the author of a book on foreign fighters. They talked through the history of foreign fighters in different conflicts, how to think about the inflows into Ukraine and what the downsides might be of the phenomenon of foreign fighters traveling to Ukraine. 

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0:18.2

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0:25.6

no bull and the aftermath.

0:31.2

Right laptop, I'm ready to finish this thesis.

0:34.2

What thesis?

0:35.2

The one I've spent two years working on.

0:36.7

Don't have it.

0:37.7

What's the last version you saved?

0:39.4

Got final version, final final version, and no, I'm actually serious now.

0:42.9

This is the last version I will never save another version I promise, version two.

0:46.7

Surely that one?

0:47.7

No.

0:48.7

Why?

0:49.7

It's corrupted.

0:50.7

Oh, thanks.

1:01.4

Saved it again.

1:08.8

So Russia has had in Ukraine itself in the past in the Crimea annexation.

1:14.6

What we're called little green men, so people who were not wearing uniforms, but were clearly

1:19.8

Russian military, who were part of the seizure of Crimea.

1:23.8

Pakistan sent its own forces to help the Taliban fight at different times in history in Afghanistan.

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